Info 325: Webfinds

 

Sorry, I'm currently quite busy and running out of movies. I'm also re-watching my DVDs, currently I'm watching Voor een verloren soldaat (For a Lost Soldier) at least a girl in a sailor dress there and boys in 1940s clothes, coming soon.

I found 3 musical clips with this pic, taken from another (unknown) PD movie and/or personal collection. This appears on song Happy Days are here again (Harry Hudson's Melody Men), Ray Ventura & ses Collégiens... "Aux Îles Vent-Debout" (1937) and Orchester Ludwig Rüth... "Wo die Strandpromenade zu Ende geht !" (1936), clips by Leotarus1975.

Also some few other pics, beach set in Belgium (Knokke-Heist, Oostende, Blankenberge). And many other clips with vintage pics 30s/40s including Berlin, some colorized. But I haven't checked them all. Maybe also Lederhosen?

Info 323: Updates: Feuerwerk (1954), exclusive pics

 

Google hasn't started to delete the Albums, yet. Elsewhere it says after July 19th, albums aren't available anymore. Also not sure about the time zone (it's morning in Germany).

Yesterday, I've fixed some (target) links and re-uploaded some (exclusive pics), but as said they are all available on my Google Photo Albums. I have to check again tomorrow.

Pic 1 is a new re-upload. It's from Feuerwerk (1954) rating 7 (there's even a much better scene of a handsome boy). The pic was in Story 47.

Story 98: sailor suit boy

Prince Lennart of Sweden (1909-2004) in 1921, so around 12 yo. Later Count Lennart Bernadotte, grandson of King Gustaf V.

Story 97: adjusting swim shorts

Again a bit off-topic but tight swim shorts are already historical and mainly worn in the 1980s and 90s. And the scene might be of interest.

I found this on one of my older hard discs searching for more of my unknown movies. Unfortunately I haven't found any more clues or better pics but I'm still searching online.

I haven't found any clips or pics of this one on the web, so I will share this. The scene is from the 2000 German short film "Fast nackt". I had this on VHS but probably not completetly. I think this is the only scene of interest. The main plot is about grown-ups.

The boy is sitting with other boys in an indoor swimming pool reading something. He stands up and first have to pull his legs of his swim shorts down and later have to adjust some more. Pulling the legs of underwear I have seen in L'enfant sage (see my bedroom blog) but that was due to wearing tight jeans over them lifting them up.

Later he is also standing on the diving board but on the side and from a distance. Swim shorts are maybe too tight especially for the 2000.

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A rating 10 entry coming next.

Story 96: sailor collar rectangled at front and accessories

I have more carefully rechecked the beginning of the series Löwengrube (another update including Lederhosen coming soon).

Pic 1 showing a boy I think set around the 1900s (YouTube: D1 4). He wears a short sailor suit, white blouse and blue pants and a dark blue usual sailor collar. I think It's the same boy as in my recent update, there rear view, full body.

He also wears a white shirt or dickey with a usual (non-sailor) collar but a dark blue or black additional neckwear accessory underneath looking like a moustache. I don't know how this is called. A band or part of a necktie or almost a bow tie. Maybe a collar stay? I have to recheck name and function. I haven't seen that before (in combination with a sailor collar).

He also put on a napkin and he later wears a backpack over the collar (same episode).

Pic 2 showing a teen girl with a sailor collar, squared at front (looking the same as the rear flap). YouTube D2 1, I think in the early 1930s. I have seen these kind of sailor collars before. But quite rare and I think mostly worn by young women. Here we have one thinner and one thicker stripe.

Main entry (Lederhosen and sailor suit, rating 9)

/2013/04/14/lowengrube/

One boy in a collar squared at front is in Buddenbrooks (1959)

Maybe I have to add squared collars to my collar list including unusual collars.

Story 95: Sailor suit boy navy

British Claude Stanley Choules (1901-2011) in 1915

Last known combat veteran of WWI

Story 94: US 4-H girl in sailor dress , boy sailor suit

During research for my one-room schoolhouse pics for my bib overalls blog I found this pic. First I thought that this is a boy. Sorry.

It's quite rare wearing a sailor dress at the 4-H (a kids farm organisation). And there are very few sailor suit pics on loc.gov.

The only one I don't already had is the following from 1905 Washington. Not sure if this is an American boy. Also note the hats on both pics.



 

Story 93: Sailor collar: eye catcher and distraction

One other interstesting thought. After rewatching Le temps des secrets (pictured, rating 8, after Marcel Pagnol), I found this scene at 24 minutes and I thought again about the purpose of a sailor collar.

Richard Oiry wearing white clothes and only the blue collar is different (also funny how it is folded by the wind).

Maybe the collar should lift the eye sight and deflecting from other, lower body parts? Remember Catholic or other religions and moral thoughts in these early days.

Younger kids were mostly clothed by their parents (moms) and the main purpose for a sailor suit was maybe the pride for the Marines and to look alike. See also other story entries, especially

/2012/01/18/story-16-sailor-collars-types-2-and-purpose/

and blog search for "wind" "flying" and "blowing".

I also have updated the previous story entry and a pic about a folded collar. (Sorry no more Lederhosen yet).

 

Story 92: Folded or ironed sailor collars

Most sailor collars are plain and ironed, also most of real sailor men I've seen.

Recently "Men of Honor" (2000, pictured) starring Robert De Niro had been aired. One sailor wearing a white suit and a white collar (without stripes) which had been folded 4 times.

I wonder why it hadn't been ironed like the rest of the suit. Maybe due to space limitations on a ship? I have to verify that. Most (movies with) young boys I've seen wearing sailor suits and ironed collars.

But I think I have seen som few boys with folded collars as well (but I think on a ship too, maybe a high rated Soviet movie). I also have seen a collar, folded in the middle.

I prefer ironed collars or at least long collar flaps. I have to recheck some movies and my caps (which or on a different HD).

The movie also showing a boy in bib overalls (even underwater), rating 3 (story 78 entry) on my other blog.

Another story entry involving boys and sailor collars coming soon.

Update: Pic below is from Sekretnyy farvater (rating 10) with a collar folded in the middle.

Multipe times folded collar in Nahimovcy (1976), rating 6.

Info 185: Books Lederhosen 1940s 50s 60s

I found 2 interesting books with boys in Lederhosen (or similar brown or black shorts).

Christian Elster: Drei Jungen auf einer Insel

One edition with a good book cover image. As this is a drawing I can't say if leather or cotton. Book also includes illustrations (including skinny dipping). Online version (not showing the cover image but illustrations):

http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/buch/7806/1

Not sure if someone is interested in this. The other title I forgot and try to find.

The problem is that the cover images often changes and the plot is not neccessarily describing that clothing in the text. And vice versa. Same for my bib overalls blog. More books there and new ones coming soon.

See also

/2012/04/18/info-93-vintage-lederhosen-and-sailor-suit-books/

 

 

Update: One more book even with H-style suspenders is

Edda Bars: Das Geheimnis der verfallenen Berghütte.

Exclusive pic#47 sailor suit boy and tiger

A 12 1/2 year old boy in a striped short and tight sailor suit with a faked tiger. 1910s. Name starting with M similar to Maximilian. I haven't read that Suetterlin language for some time and don't have the time for research. There are many old styled names anyway.

Funny pic. First I thought that the tiger is a real-sized paper tiger but probably later added. Typical fashion and flat hat but somehow looks different than other sailor suits.

Long neckline at front (so probably short collar flap on the back). High and striped inside dickey. Boy looks younger to me. Not my favourite pic, but still interesting. As usual high res on picasa (magnifying glass).

Exclusive pic#46 class forest sailor suit

This photo postcard showing a class in the woods 1910s or 1920s. Only 2 kids in sailor suits. A boy in the middle (blurred while moving) and 2 kids further right with longer hair probably a girl?

I can't say much more about it. Probably Germans. Boys with short hair, some wearing ties and suspenders. Maybe some are brothers. Also note the flowers in the girls' hairs. Is this some kind of fest? May? Also funny the teacher.

Every girl has flowers in the hair. So the 2nd kid in sailor suit is also a boy? Big eyes, long hair. Looks extremely feminine for these days. But I don't like this pic.

Exclusive pic#45 sailor suit boys Denmark

This photo showing 3 older brothers from Holstebro, Denmark and their 3 sisters.Two boys wearing sailor suits. Note the very short neckline on front, so I assume very long collar flaps on the back. Additionally they wear striped dickeys. Collars have 5 stripes. And note the very large necklines of the girls.

First I didn't know their nationality and it's hard to guess by just seeing their faces of those vintage photos.The photo is faded and I first considered to convert it to real black & white but I want to maintain the warm color and the blond hair of the boys. Sometimes it's hard to identify if some sports are freckles or dirt on the pics.

I can't say much more about it. Looks like 1900s-1910s and they look quite happy (except the girl on the left). As usual high res by clicking/at Picasa.

Exclusive pic#44 sailor suit boy Essen

A boy in a sailor suit from Essen, Germany.

I can't say much more about it. Maybe 1910s or 1920s. Age about 10 yo. I somehow like this pic. Tiny CDV.

Note that he is not wearing a dickey. Typical short hair. But he looks like a boy nowadays.

Info 181: Update Lederhosen and underwear, Oktoberfest, Musikantenstadl

I always wonder what kind of underwear males and females wearing (nowadays) under their Lederhosen.

According to a post at the German board paradisi.de/Beauty_und_Pflege/Bekleidung/Lederhosen/Forum

someone says that traditionally Lederhosen are/were worn without anything underneath and no lining.

What does it mean? Traditionally. When? I doubt that it is/was true for everyone (little boys, women).

As mentioned in my post

/2011/10/24/story-9-what-underwear-in-lederhosen/

there are several movies showing parts of underwear underneath.

Maybe it's the same questions as what wearing under a kilt.

 

In the latest episode of Musikantenstadl (also boys, check a blog search) there were lots of young women in Lederhosen. And of course men and boys in Lederhosen in the audience.

 

The Oktoberfest 2013 starting this Saturday.

I have to check for upcoming broadcastings. Of course I don't know what will then be aired live.

Please check my posts for the last years. But I try to announce anything important as soon as possible.

 

Exclusive pic#43 sailor suit boy 1900s

This old photo postcard showing 3 blond boys, probably brothers from Beaumont. Not sure which Beaumont, maybe one in Belgium? Can't read the photographer's name either.

The young boy wearing a festive dark sailor suit with black or dark stockings. Completely white collar, no stripes. Note the rare wide belt matching the color of the scarf (maybe blue). Looks almost aristocratic. Short blond hair.

The background looks like a fake studio background to me.

Not my favourite pic, but it wasn't expensive. As usual high res on Picasa.

Exclusive pic#42 sailor suit boy 1905

This cabinet card from 1905 showing a young boy from Villingen, Germany in a dark (blue) sailor suit with a long collar flap. 3 thick stripes and some thinner stripes (see high-res). Traditional short hair. Nice garden scene with mom and sisters. Quite rare as this is not a studio photograph.

Sorry I don't have the time right now to remove the scratches. Maybe I will colorize it later.

Story 83: Colorized exclusive #4

I have quickly colorized my famous exclusive 4 pic (Dresden 1931).

The hair is often most difficult. First it was too much yellow, now too much red. But I think it's better than b&w.

 

As previously announced on all my blogs, I now have to take my blogging pause.

Info 174: New PD sailor suit royals

The children of King George V. by Arthur James Hope Downey 1910. National Portrait Gallery, London.

Nice touching the shoulders / collars by the older brothers. Note the wide pants on the right. Only the 2 youngest in sailor suits.

Info 173: Blond boy bowlcut

Historical hair fashion. Blond boy about 12 yo before and after a perfect 90s bowl cut.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkM6RJf15cg